I do agree Murray. But I would look to just bring in the odd new birds to hopefully enhance my own family. I done that when I brought the Van Hee’s in back in the 90s. I think it is very difficult to continue improving a family if you don’t have any of the parents or G.parents of top pigeons. I am still trying to find a few good birds to found the family with. I have got some birds here that are looking promising. I will be breeding from these ones next year and hopefully will find a future champion and Sire or Dam of the loftMurray wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 7:26 am Andy, a few years ago I would have agreed with you about developing your own family. Now, not so much.
Have a look at the pedigrees of the pigeons coming out of the top European lofts. They are sold as a "direct Van der Hum", but if you look at the pedigree, 2 or 3 of it's grand parents came from other top flyers.
I did that, I had a shed full of pigeons which were a 'family'. They were so inbred you could hear the banjos playing in the background.![]()
They were identical. And, what they were was what they would stay.
The last two or three years I have crossed them with some 'modern' pigeons, and it's like they are from a different planet!![]()
Forget about 'a family' of pigeons. Keep looking for pigeons that are better than the ones that you have.
That's what the champions do![]()
Paper does not fly.
Back just enjoying club racing for the time being.
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did you have birds from these Dev