I do agree Murray. But I would look to just bring in the odd new birds to hopefully enhance my own family. I done that when I brought the Van Hee’s in back in the 90s. I think it is very difficult to continue improving a family if you don’t have any of the parents or G.parents of top pigeons. I am still trying to find a few good birds to found the family with. I have got some birds here that are looking promising. I will be breeding from these ones next year and hopefully will find a future champion and Sire or Dam of the loftMurray wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 7:26 am Andy, a few years ago I would have agreed with you about developing your own family. Now, not so much.
Have a look at the pedigrees of the pigeons coming out of the top European lofts. They are sold as a "direct Van der Hum", but if you look at the pedigree, 2 or 3 of it's grand parents came from other top flyers.
I did that, I had a shed full of pigeons which were a 'family'. They were so inbred you could hear the banjos playing in the background. They were identical. And, what they were was what they would stay.
The last two or three years I have crossed them with some 'modern' pigeons, and it's like they are from a different planet!
Forget about 'a family' of pigeons. Keep looking for pigeons that are better than the ones that you have.
That's what the champions do
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