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I've got that book somewhere ;)
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MIL wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2024 11:52 pm You'll like this hen of Leideman's George and the impact she's had

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"SILVER DREAM" DV 07237-11-1597
Insatiable breeder of winners!
Direct Dam of "JET"
Some other examples of her potency are ""ACE 820", "FLOYD", "RACHEL", "SIGRID", "JUSIFY"

"JET" NL15-1234091 - Winner of :
1. Asse Zellik 11,343 birds
1. I.prov. Gien 611 km 7,768 birds
1. Rethel 4,692 birds
6. Laon 6,371 birds
10. Duffel 5,821 birds

"JET" is the direct Dam of "GRIZZLE JET" NL20-1085818
"Grizzle Jet" is winner of the following titles:
1. Provincial Acepigeon Section 8 All-round
2. Nat Acepigeon De Allerbeste Yearlings
2. Nat Acepigeon pipa rankings Yearlings
3. Nat Acepigeon De Allerbeste All-round

"Grizzle Jet" is winner of the following prizes:

5. Châlons-en-Champagne against 3,347 pigeons
24. Melun Andrezel against 7,291 pigeons
28. Bierges against 3,901 pigeons
33. Tienen against 5,780 pigeons
36. Bierges against 4,925 pigeons
42. Reims against 2,261 pigeons
46. Quievrain against 4,009 pigeons
50. Niergnies against 5,573 pigeons
55. Niergnies against 10,367 pigeons
55. Tongeren against 5,765 pigeons
66. Chimay against 3,540 pigeons
67. Morlincourt against 8,903 pigeons
85. Issoudun ZAC against 4,462 pigeons
86. Sens against 675 pigeons
90. Nanteuil against 712 pigeons
92. Châlons-en-Champagne against 2,821 pigeons
94. Dizy le Gros against 2,279 pigeons
95. Chimay against 5,807 pigeons



"JET" also responsible for :

(G.)mother of a/o
Olympiad bird Germany cat. A 2020-2021 at Neuhaus
1. Nat. acebird late tour WHZB/TBOTB 2019 at Eijerkamp
1. prov. acebird allround 2020 appr. 17,000 birds at Calis
1. prov. acebird allround 2021 at Eijerkamp
1. s-prov. acebird allround 2021 with ‘Claire’
1. Nat. GP Melun – 4,963 birds at Comb. Heeren (g.child)
1. prov. Soest – 17,538 birds with ‘Claire’
1. prov. Morlincourt - 17,024 birds at Eijerkamp
1. prov. winner 291 km – 7,891 birds at Neuhaus
1. Lessines – 8,418 birds at Calis
1. Chalons En Champagne – 5,887 birds with ‘Claire’
1. prov. Deurne - 4,299 birds with ‘Viton’
Many more 1. prize winners & NPO.prov. top 10 winners



"ACE 820" - Sensational Racer/Breeder

Winner of
1. I.prov. acebird allround & middle dist. 2018
4. Nat. acebird middle dist. TBOTB 2018
1. prov. Weert - 5,552 birds
3. prov. Quievrain - 10,570 birds
3. prov. Laon - 6,371 birds
6. prov. Rethel - 7,115 birds
2. Boxtel - 1,961 birds

Father of winners

1. prov. Weert - 11,059 birds
1. Venlo - 603 birds / 4. prov. 3,899 birds



G,father of ‘Grizzle Best Kittel’ Dehon-Demonseau
2. Nat. ace KBDB Sprint YL 2022 after loftmate ‘Méchant Best Kittel’
1. Pont – 2,322 birds
1. Pont – 1,363 birds
1. Ecouen - 860 birds
1. Pont - 730 birds
1. Ecouen - 696 birds
Also 6x only beaten by loft mates

G.father ‘Bert’ at Eijerkamp

11. Nat. acebird late tour WHZB/TBOTB 2019
2. prov. Niergnies – 10,065 birds after loft mate
Also 12.-22.-68. avg. +5,000 birds

- Grandfather of
1. Super Ace & 1. Grand Avg. As Golden One Loft Race Greece 2022

G.father of ‘Selassie’
New topbreeder Gebr. Leideman paired to ‘Monello’ (brother ‘Ace 820’)
- Mother of winners
1. & 2. fastest NPO Sens – 10,425 birds 2022 with 5 min. lead at Leideman
1. prov. GP Dizy Le Gros – 5,618 birds 2022 with +2 min. lead at Leideman


"FLOYD" - Winner of :
1st 11,474 birds



"RACHEL" NL18-1459287
"Rachel" is winner of the following prizes:
1. Prov. Weert against 11,059 pigeons
21. Prov. Weert against 5,785 pigeons
23. Prov. Gennep against 12,820 pigeons
39. Prov. Arlon against 7,113 pigeons



Descendants to "Rachel" are winner of the following prizes:
2. Niergnies against 10,065 pigeons
2. Nanteuil against 9,034 pigeons
3. Morlincourt against 779 pigeons
8. Sezanne against 9,393 pigeons
9. Chimay against 1,879 pigeons
12. Niergnies against 6,829 pigeons
15. Etroeungt against 6,652 pigeons
16. Fay aux Loges (Orlea against 6,324 pigeons


"SIGRID" B14-1466920
Outstanding Hen. Electric winner of :
1st Boxtel 10,739 birds
1st Troyes 371 birds
1st Sens 323 birds
3rd Troyes 2,485 birds
4th Wijchen 2,599 birds
8th Lorris 1,769 birds
10th Sens 3,083 birds
33rd Tongeren 5,460 birds
31st Tessenderlo 2,010 birds

"JUSTIFY"
Winner of :
1st Quievrain 10,570 birds
3rd Rethel 4,206 birds

"JUSTIFY" is responsible for :
1st Venlo 3,696 birds
9th National Ace Cock Germany 2019
Very impressive
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MIL wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2024 12:11 am I've got that book somewhere ;)
I've got several books that I lent to a novice a couple of years ago, I really need to ask him for them back !!
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THE WONDER COUPLE ARTURO X TILA
Sometimes as a fancier you realize it when you are handling gold with a certain couple. This realization came to Leideman on the 7th of July 2019 at the race of Lorris, 597 km. A challenging NPO race where the fastest pigeons had to hit 1150 mpm; it meant hard work, but it really was an honest battle. Leideman managed to achieve a strong result with 7 pigeons among the first 14 of the National sector 4 of 6,086 pigeons. The first two pigeons (‘Aura’ and ‘Nancy’) as well as the winners of the 13. and 14. National (‘Haley’ and ‘Fabio’) all came from ‘Arturo’ x ‘Tila’ … and every single one of those pigeons turned out to be more than a one-day wonder, they all would continue to win 1st prizes multiple times! The confirmation that this couple is worth gold.

n the years after also 2nd, 3rd and 4th generation offspring of ‘Arturo’ x ‘Tila’ showed to win; always and anywhere! Direct children are for Leideman brothers winners of
1. Nat. S4 Issoudun 709 km – 3,746 b.
1. prov. Venlo 138 km – 17,235 b.
1. I.prov. Weert – 13,141 b.
2. Nat. S4 Chateauroux 731 km – 3,647 b.
3.-8.-13.-14. Nat. S4 Lorris 597 km – 6,086 b.
3. prov. Dreis-Bruck – 18,212 b.
3. Nat. S4 Sens – 4,995 b.
3. NPO Brienne 493 km – 3,238 b.
4. Nat. S4 Sens – 4,672 b.
5. prov. Venlo – 4,910 b.
5. prov. Rethel – 8,181 b.

In 2020 the brothers were forced to move and sold the total racing team, with amongst them several children of ‘Arturo’ x ‘Tila’ … fanciers that manages to purchase these diamonds never regretted it … they bred winners of a/o
1. Nat. S2 Vierzon 567 km – 7,956 b. (at G. & S. Verkerk)
1. NPO Chalons YB 433 km – 3,892 b. (at Gebr. Leideman)
1. NPO Argenton 568 km – 3,127 b. (at Gijs Baan)
1. I.prov. Sittard – 18,592 b. (at Foppe VD Meer)
1. prov. Arlon – 13,967 b. 2022 (g.child ‘Tila’ at Henk Slot)
1. prov. Kalkar – 13,922 b. (at Broos Family)
1. prov. Gennep – 12,570 b. (at Gebr. Leideman)
1. prov. PS Maxence – 9,142 b. (at Ruud Bakker)
1. prov. Fontenay – 6,455 b. (at Gebr. Scheele)
3x 1. prov. winner 2,580 – 1,625 – 1,384 b. (at Wolfgang Roeper)
1.-2.-2.-2.-3.-4.-7.-7.-8.-10. avg. 1,300 b. (at Wolfgang Roeper)
1. Sittard – 986 b. (at Gebr. Leideman)
1. prize 460 km – 620 b. (at H. & S. Harms)
2. Nat. BICC St. Philbert – 2,105 b. (at Mark Gilbert, UK)
3. prov. Zutphen – 11,824 b. (at Foppe VD Meer)
5. prov. Melun – 5,644 b. (at Ruud Bakker)
8. Dutch yearling PIPA Ranking 2019 (at Broos Family)
Even great grandchildren already reached the highest possible level and became winners of
1. Olympiad bird NL cat. youngsters (at Broos Family)
1. Nat. acebird speed De Allerbeste 2021-2022 (at Olaf Westhoeve)
1. NPO Chalons En Champagne – 3,892 b. (at Gebr. Leideman)
1. prov. Arlon – 16,036 b. (at Gebr. Leideman)
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Like Mike says, in this sport you need good birds that perform at the highest level. Not only in racing, but breeding too.
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Devo1956 wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2024 10:21 am Like Mike says, in this sport you need good birds that perform at the highest level. Not only in racing, but breeding too.
Certainly helps George, but that's only the main piece of the jigsaw

I know a bloke who really does invest in some of the best pigeons going. His stock team are breathtaking. Scare the life outta me

His results are poor, and that's because his Management is all to cock

I helped him one year and one year alone and he was Champion of his Federation that year (4,000 birds a week)

After that he took his loft down and had a new loft (against my advice) - he's never been the same since.
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Top notch again there Devo very impressive
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I found this Mike, not sure if you have seen it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDDOllrsUf8
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A nice youngster bred by the lads in Germany.
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Very nice
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