Buster121 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 14, 2025 11:15 am
Mike like I have said several times you have achieved great things and I admire you for it, but taking the pi$$ and laughing at people is out of order, also you do not need to highlight or point things out to me I do read and observe posts just because I don't reply to them all
Myself I would be way down on any of your lists as like I have said many, many times taking part was my thrill any cards a bonus, yes I sent to hopefully win as we all do, and as you said that makes me a loser well you know what Mike or anybody else who thinks that way I am a loser but damn proud
If someone is gonna take the piss and laugh at me then what's good for the goose is good for the gander. Try and demean or belittle me, thats cool but i will, absolutely will fight my corner and defend myself if i feel i’m being prodded
Now i’m not gonna say ‘this is my last comment on the thread’ cos it might not be. Come take a pop if you want but I will defend myself
Mike in your statment, you have wrote a lot of what members already know of you past records. And no one can take that away from you, you also wrote about members you respect in the sport.
So my advice to you, if members want advice. They can contact you, and gather the advice they need.
Myself I have always said I do my own thing because I want keep my life, my passion, my love for the sport. but most of all my desire of breeding. And hopefully finding my dream no one elses dream.
I think I will take a break, and work on my project. I just feel people have a choice and that includes yourself.
Devo1956 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 14, 2025 1:15 pm
Mike in your statment, you have wrote a lot of what members already know of you past records. And no one can take that away from you, you also wrote about members you respect in the sport.
So my advice to you, if members want advice. They can contact you, and gather the advice they need.
Myself I have always said I do my own thing because I want keep my life, my passion, my love for the sport. but most of all my desire of breeding. And hopefully finding my dream no one elses dream.
I think I will take a break, and work on my project. I just feel people have a choice and that includes yourself.
Sorry Devo are you saying we can not ask for advice on the forum ? Or just not from Mike I don’t understand that part of your post
We have lots of people like myself the two Dave’s Pete etc that like to ask for help and advice particularly and although it upsets people when I say it but i like advice and views from someone like Mike
If you set up a business you kind of wouldn’t ask someone on the dole how you should go about it
Not sure what the forum will be like if you take that large part of that away
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Devo1956 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 14, 2025 1:15 pm
Mike in your statment, you have wrote a lot of what members already know of you past records. And no one can take that away from you, you also wrote about members you respect in the sport.
So my advice to you, if members want advice. They can contact you, and gather the advice they need.
Myself I have always said I do my own thing because I want keep my life, my passion, my love for the sport. but most of all my desire of breeding. And hopefully finding my dream no one elses dream.
I think I will take a break, and work on my project. I just feel people have a choice and that includes yourself.
Sorry Devo are you saying we can not ask for advice on the forum ? Or just not from Mike I don’t understand that part of your post
We have lots of people like myself the two Dave’s Pete etc that like to ask for help and advice particularly and although it upsets people when I say it but we like advice and views from someone like Mike
If you set up a business you kind of wouldn’t ask someone on the dole how you should go about it
Not sure what the forum will be like if you take that large part of that away
Neil, some members may want to ask Mike on the topics, or PM that is their choice or yours.
NeilA wrote: ↑Fri Feb 14, 2025 1:41 pm
Lost me with the 2nd paragraph then Devo can’t see why you wrote it if nothings changed
Neil, Mike has already answered, he as been busy all morning giving advice.
Didn’t think he hadn’t just didn’t understand the 2nd paragraph that you wrote what with your latest answer to me kind of conflicting it
It’s not important
I wasn’t going to post anymore on this topic and even thought about leaving the forum altogether.
But it’s our forum, myself and Buster are the administrators and have and are keeping the forum going for the benefit of everyone.
I have been on the forum for 10 years now. Buster, Devo and George were members long before me. It has always been a very friendly forum where help and advice has been freely given to anyone who has come on asking for it. All 3 of those mentioned, plus others that sadly are no longer with us, helped me loads when I was restarting in the sport after a 10 year break. I have met Devo and George, been to theirs and they have both been to me, Devo is 5 hours from me and George 3 hours. Unfortunately I haven’t yet met Buster in person but still consider him a very good friend. I have many other friends that I have made through this forum. Unfortunately we lost some very good fanciers when the site had to be rebooted and restated after the old software became outdated. We have lost some very good fanciers due to ill health or unfortunately deceased. After the shutting down of pigeon chat we had an influx of new members which we have welcomed and are determined to keep it as a friendly forum where members can give advice on the way they would do things however different that may be to others without being mocked by members who think they are better than anyone else. There isn’t one member on here who is more deserving of praise and respect than any other.
I have been involved with livestock of some description for the whole of my 63 years. Dad had pigeons and we had chickens, rabbits and various other pets as children. I have always loved having livestock around me which is why I left school and went into dairy farming for 30 years where I got to know all of the cows I ever had and respected them all. I preferred dairy rather than beef as I got to breed from them, rear them up and see them mature for years and generations. Following on from that for the last 20 years I have had the pet shop.
I have kept pigeons for all but a few years throughout my life and have always treated them with admiration and respect.
As far as pigeon racing is concerned it is a sport/hobby enjoyed by many. People have different aspirations of what they want and should be praised for their performances if they achieve what they want from the sport. For some it’s just having the pigeons around or seeing them return from a race. It’s always nice to see them return whether they’re the first bird or the last one home. Winning isn’t everything. There is far more to this sport than just winning. It’s the friends that are made, the camaraderie up the club, the chats at the club and on here exchanging views and experiences.
As for comments made on here, I have been told I can’t fly a kite let alone a pigeon despite the number of winners I’ve had and bred, I was accused of making excuses for not winning, something I have never done, and laughed at because I had old pigeons still in the loft. To me I love all my pigeons and having them around me. I talk to them when in the loft and they respond to me. I love just watching them exercising and returning from the races, and yes I want to win and aim to win. I think it’s disgusting and very bad for the sport for someone to be suggesting that the only way to succeed is to get rid of anything that is no longer winning or is getting a little bit old.
It is suggested that we have a fancier on here who is better than all our other members put together and we should admire him and do what he says. I don’t think there is anyone on here who anywhere near meets that criteria.
Mike doesn’t know me anymore than I know him. During my 50+ years in the sport I have never heard of him before he came on the site. I haven’t got a clue what he has achieved apart from what he’s felt he needed to put on this forum. I have met and know of many fanciers far better with far better achievements than he ever has or likely to have.
To be told that the only way to achieve success is to be buying pigeons in is typical of an auctioneer. I have met, come across many auctioneers through markets and livestock sales over the years and all bar none having only one thing in mind and that’s persuading people to part with their money. There is very little money to be made from the actual racing of pigeons. It’s only through selling pigeons directly or indirectly that makes any real money .
We have already lost one of our longest standing members through being mocked by other members on hear and others that won’t post due to thinking their get the same treatment. We won’t let this continue and want the site back to the friendly site it always was.
Back just enjoying club racing for the time being.
