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Andy123
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25/10/2020 9:40 pm  

The BBC and the BICC have put up their purposed race programs for 2021.

Obviously it is all dependent on the Covid situation and possible restrictions and could even be changed due to brexit, but at present they are looking at things positively.

We still have to wait for the CSCFC and the NFC for their programs.

Old Birds

1/05   Falaise 178 miles 1398 yards   BICC 

15/05   Alencon 212 miles 979 yards   BICC 

15/05   Coutances 145 miles 1357 yards   BBC

29/05   St Philbert 274 miles 1416 yards   BICC 

12/06   Poitiers 343 miles 386 yards   BICC 

12/06   Messac 225 miles 124 yards   BBC

18/06   Pau 544 miles 304 yards   BICC International 

25/06   Agen 520 miles 428 yards   BICC International 

26/06   Fougeres 196 miles 188 yards   BBC

02/07   Barcelona 708 miles 120 yards   BICC & BBC International 

02/07   Pau 544 miles 428 yards   BBC

03/07   Le Mans 240 miles 808 yards   BICC

09/07   St Vincent 515 miles 334 yards   BICC International 

16/07   Marseille 648 miles 324 yards   BICC International 

16/07   Bordeaux 433 miles 1723 yards   BBC

17/07   Nort-Sur-Erdre 225 miles 124 yards   BICC

23/07   Narbonne 602 miles 1442 yards   BICC International 

30/07   Perpignan 636 miles 1248 yards   BICC International 

31/07   Angouleme 391 miles ?   BICC

Young birds & Any Age 

28/08   Guernsey 109 miles 945 yards   BICC

28/08   Coutances 145 miles 1357 yards   BBC

11/09   Vire 167 miles 836 yards   BICC

As can be seen, even without the CSCFC & NFC races, there is already a great range and choice of races. I probably won’t send to any of the Internationals next year but with the Pau National with the BBC I still have the chance of sending over 500 miles. The NFC & CSCFC will both have races over 500 miles. 

I am already looking forward to racing next year. I feel we can really take a step towards our goal of Barcelona. We have 13 two year olds and over, including the 10 yearlings from this year, that I would hope to give a 500+ mile race. These 10 two year olds are looking really good and I have high hopes for them. The 11 yearlings, this years youngsters, I will hope to get to between 340 & 400 miles. 

 


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buster121
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26/10/2020 6:09 am  

Have you seen this

 

I don't know why the changes are taking place , if you look at the following PDF in English and search for 'pigeons' the page above it gives the effective date approx page 84/172
https://eur-lex.euro...reg/2016/429/oj


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Andy123
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26/10/2020 8:58 am  

@buster121 still trying to find the bit you mention. 


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Andy123
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26/10/2020 9:54 am  
Posted by: @buster121

Have you seen this

 

I don't know why the changes are taking place , if you look at the following PDF in English and search for 'pigeons' the page above it gives the effective date approx page 84/172
https://eur-lex.euro...reg/2016/429/oj

I have found the bit you are referring to. I maybe wrong but I think these regulations are all about notify able diseases and are relevant to European member states, to which we no longer belong. I see that these new regulations come into effect from 21st April 2021. 

Most of these regulations have been in place for years mainly to protect the Agricultural side of things. They are just amended from time to time depending on diseases around at the time. I have seen however that bird flu has been found again in 2 swans in Holland which could be a concern. 


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26/10/2020 11:08 am  

good luck Andy would have Coutances at 145 mls would have better as your first race


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26/10/2020 1:20 pm  
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good luck Andy would have Coutances at 145 mls would have better as your first race

think I read it wrong  Andy


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Andy123
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26/10/2020 2:45 pm  

I know what your saying George. These are the races available at present. Still have to put in the CSCFC and NFC races. I can pick and choose which ones I want to send to. Although last year the first race was Falaise with the BICC and I got 18 from 21, 6 of these having their first ever race. 


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26/10/2020 5:36 pm  

Looks good to me. Cool

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26/10/2020 7:28 pm  

Blimmy we've only just finished this season lol 😕😕😉🤠

There certainly is plenty of choice Andy, I think you are right not going for the Internationals this season. It will give you something to do during these long dark nights planning your races, good luck bruv. 

I think I will be joining the BBC this year as I think it will be the only way our federation will be going over the water. 

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26/10/2020 7:44 pm  

I can see you have put those difficult races this season behind you Andy...good for you  mate.....whichever way you plan your2021 season dont think your on your own ...all the lads on here will be coming along for the ride.


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Andy123
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26/10/2020 10:25 pm  

@grizzlecock The old bird season was very condensed and we weren’t even sure where or whether we were going to race. Having said that apart from not getting Magic’s Red cock from the Agen International I was quite pleased with the way the old birds done. I only lost 8 old birds. I think I could honestly say that only 3 of these I was surprised to lose. The other 5 I could probably have put a ? against at the start of the season. I think I could probably put a ? against 4 of the old birds that I’m going to start with next year. Obviously 8 of the 11 yearlings are unknown at present as they haven’t raced yet, but were trained well. 

It was the young bird races that really got to me. This is why I probably won’t race the youngsters next year but just train them harder and further. I just felt that I lost some potentially good birds from the 2 bad young bird races. The only reason why I may race the odd ones will be if I am going to end up with far to many birds and have some that mess up in training. I may even try to take them to mum’s or Trev’s which would be about 90 miles.


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28/10/2020 6:26 am  
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Andy123
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28/10/2020 8:20 am  

@buster121 thanks mate. I did see that yesterday. 


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Andy123
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18/11/2020 3:56 pm  

All of the National and Classic clubs have now put their preposed race programs up. I know with what's going on with Covid and Brexit things are still uncertain but all have put forward a full program of channel races.

 

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There is a big choice of races and would need a very big team to compete in them all. I have 24 in my race team for next year. I will have to decide what races I want them to ultimately go too then work out their biuld up and pairings to give me the best chance of getting them to their chosen race. I probably won't be sending to any of the Internationals this year. I probably won't send with the NFC either but this is more down to not being able to get to the marking station, although I think this could change. 

My aim this year with the old birds is to get as many of the 13 two year olds and older to Pau 544mls. The Pau race on the 2/7/21 is with the BBC, CSCFC & NFC. I'm not sure yet whether they are having one liberation. The BBC & CSCFC will almost certainly go together as the use the same transporter. Not sure what the NFC are doing. If it is one liberation I could duplicate the birds into all 3. I have plenty of options for the 11 yearlings. I want them to have at least one race over 300mls. I have Poitiers 343mls, Bordeaux 433mls, Sigogne 381mls and Angouleme 391mls to choose from. 

Still not planning particularly on racing any youngsters. I won't decide this until much later on. At present I am not thinking of doing so. But if I have a lot of old birds that have done well and a lot of youngsters left after a lot of training and it looks like I'm going to have far to many birds to house next winter I may send a few. 

If all goes well with the two year olds next year I may well have our first crack at Barcelona in 2022.

After the shows I will put photos up of all the birds in the Barcelona team. 


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18/11/2020 6:28 pm  

Exciting times ahead for you Andy...i wish you well.....but .i would like to say 1 thing....please do not think that i am trying to push you in any way...nothing further from the truth.....barcelona may be a long way...or should i say massive time on wing..... but it could pay to keep your options open....1 thing i found out is dont think sprint type birds cant do it.....these types are fast maturing and will kill themselves to get back ..ive seen it....very rare but some can do it.. although they.could never repeat that effort...all i am trtying to say is you have all different types in the team...and sprint.middle type could possible be passed their peak at 3+...just food for thought.


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