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Andy123
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06/07/2020 10:21 pm  

Right from the start of this venture I was going to do things my way and keep everyone updated on what is going on. I may not do things the way others would and may get things wrong but as I hadn’t done anything like this before it is also a learning curve for me especially with the type of racing I’m doing. Hopefully I am learning from my mistakes. 

So, as the last couple of years, we had another batch of youngsters come in being

2 from Phil, 4 from Trev, 4 from Leslie, 6 from John & Ben and 6 from Pete, 2 of these being for Murray. Along with these were 24 bred by myself mainly from members birds from previous years. I was due to have some from Magic again. He was actually going to send me over 2 stock pairs for me to breed some youngsters from for the team. Unfortunately due to me not being able to get my lofts sorted, Magic’s ill health and then Covid this didn’t happen. Hopefully still something for next year. 

I culled 3 that I bred that weren’t doing well at wearing and 2 I lost off the loft leaving me with 41. 

These birds coming in have gone straight into my loft. No treatments or quarantine. I like the birds to build a good immune system right from the start. They still haven’t been treated for anything apart from being vaccinated for paramyxovirus last Saturday. 

They have all come on well and have been flying well. They are let out all together with the old birds for an hour or so in the morning and 2 to 3 hours in the afternoon. They can do what they want during this period. They are scraped out twice a day while out and fed in. 

So I decided it is time to start training them now. I got up early this morning and basket’d up 40 of the youngsters. Only the second time they have been in the basket. They were actually very calm. The only one I didn’t take was one from Leslie as she was due to lay her second egg this morning. A few youngsters have already paired up. 

I set off at 6.45 and took them 7 miles. It was bright when leaving home but there were some very dark clouds around and still a strong WNW wind which would be a side/head wind. I got to where I was going to let them go at about 7.10am. The sky was quite dark with a bit of drizzle in the air but looked bright in the direction home. I was a bit apprehensive about letting them go but they have to start sometime. I don’t worry about letting them stand but just put the crates down and let them go. They left the crates quickly and were up and away. They made a half circle and headed off towards home. I got home at about 7.45am. As I walked up the garden there were 3 or 4 flying around already home. As it was the time they are usually out and not their time to be fed they just kept flying. I didn’t bother trying to call them down. I just let the old birds out to join them. I then started cleaning them out. While I was doing that the batch flying around was getting bigger. They must have got split up a bit and coming back in batches. By the time I had finished cleaning out and changing the water it was still a bit early for their feeding time so I went to have a cup of tea and a bit of breakfast. By this time there was a good sized batch flying around. I went and fed them in at 8.30. On counting up there were just 2 missing. When I checked at 10.00 I was just the one missing. This one is still missing. It is one that I bred out of the Irish hen and the cock 54 from Pete. Interestingly this youngsters had a bit of a growth on it’s neck. It is out of the cock of Pete’s that had the growth last year. Have you had any others similarly bred Pete? 

Yesterday I had a Welsh stray in that disappeared this afternoon. When I got the youngsters in this evening after their exercise, they flew really well again, I was another youngster missing that had come back this morning. I don’t know whether it went off with the stray but it was back when I shut the loft up. 

So all in all very happy. Every members youngsters are all still here. 

I am probably going to go again in the morning to the same place. 


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buster121
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07/07/2020 6:09 am  

Well done Andy, pleased to see all going well, and thanks for the update


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Muzza
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07/07/2020 8:48 am  

Good result.

As expected. Wink  

Regards

Murray.


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lestheeagle
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07/07/2020 10:04 am  

Great update Andy. Hope all goes well in the future. I'll start my first batch next week. Cool

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Petedav
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07/07/2020 10:44 am  
Posted by: @andy123

Right from the start of this venture I was going to do things my way and keep everyone updated on what is going on. I may not do things the way others would and may get things wrong but as I hadn’t done anything like this before it is also a learning curve for me especially with the type of racing I’m doing. Hopefully I am learning from my mistakes. 

So, as the last couple of years, we had another batch of youngsters come in being

2 from Phil, 4 from Trev, 4 from Leslie, 6 from John & Ben and 6 from Pete, 2 of these being for Murray. Along with these were 24 bred by myself mainly from members birds from previous years. I was due to have some from Magic again. He was actually going to send me over 2 stock pairs for me to breed some youngsters from for the team. Unfortunately due to me not being able to get my lofts sorted, Magic’s ill health and then Covid this didn’t happen. Hopefully still something for next year. 

I culled 3 that I bred that weren’t doing well at wearing and 2 I lost off the loft leaving me with 41. 

These birds coming in have gone straight into my loft. No treatments or quarantine. I like the birds to build a good immune system right from the start. They still haven’t been treated for anything apart from being vaccinated for paramyxovirus last Saturday. 

They have all come on well and have been flying well. They are let out all together with the old birds for an hour or so in the morning and 2 to 3 hours in the afternoon. They can do what they want during this period. They are scraped out twice a day while out and fed in. 

So I decided it is time to start training them now. I got up early this morning and basket’d up 40 of the youngsters. Only the second time they have been in the basket. They were actually very calm. The only one I didn’t take was one from Leslie as she was due to lay her second egg this morning. A few youngsters have already paired up. 

I set off at 6.45 and took them 7 miles. It was bright when leaving home but there were some very dark clouds around and still a strong WNW wind which would be a side/head wind. I got to where I was going to let them go at about 7.10am. The sky was quite dark with a bit of drizzle in the air but looked bright in the direction home. I was a bit apprehensive about letting them go but they have to start sometime. I don’t worry about letting them stand but just put the crates down and let them go. They left the crates quickly and were up and away. They made a half circle and headed off towards home. I got home at about 7.45am. As I walked up the garden there were 3 or 4 flying around already home. As it was the time they are usually out and not their time to be fed they just kept flying. I didn’t bother trying to call them down. I just let the old birds out to join them. I then started cleaning them out. While I was doing that the batch flying around was getting bigger. They must have got split up a bit and coming back in batches. By the time I had finished cleaning out and changing the water it was still a bit early for their feeding time so I went to have a cup of tea and a bit of breakfast. By this time there was a good sized batch flying around. I went and fed them in at 8.30. On counting up there were just 2 missing. When I checked at 10.00 I was just the one missing. This one is still missing. It is one that I bred out of the Irish hen and the cock 54 from Pete. Interestingly this youngsters had a bit of a growth on it’s neck. It is out of the cock of Pete’s that had the growth last year. Have you had any others similarly bred Pete? 

Yesterday I had a Welsh stray in that disappeared this afternoon. When I got the youngsters in this evening after their exercise, they flew really well again, I was another youngster missing that had come back this morning. I don’t know whether it went off with the stray but it was back when I shut the loft up. 

So all in all very happy. Every members youngsters are all still here. 

I am probably going to go again in the morning to the same place. 

Great to hear they are doing so well Andy, well done,  yes I still have a full brother to 54,  GB19 z  09194, not had any growths on him but I did on another a few years ago, which had the same father,  I lost this one last year off the loft, the father to them all is still in my race team and was 3rd club from lerwick last year, beaten by 2 loft mates. Flying 446 miles.


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07/07/2020 1:32 pm  

Well done mate. Just have a look around for a few minutes for them bloody peregrines. It's when there first released the peregrine has an easy target.

I learned that lesson the hard way at Shepton Mallet one day with my youngers

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Trevor Hodges
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07/07/2020 6:36 pm  

A good and honest update as usual Andy, good to hear the first trainer went well and all but 1 are present and correct. Keep up the good work bruv 👍


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Trevor Hodges
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07/07/2020 6:42 pm  
Posted by: @bkays

Well done mate. Just have a look around for a few minutes for them bloody peregrines. It's when there first released the peregrine has an easy target.

I learned that lesson the hard way at Shepton Mallet one day with my youngers

Had that once myself Ben on the Isle of Wight. I had looked around before letting the birds go as they are a big problem over there but the birds had only circled once and the peregrine just came from nowhere straight into them. On that occasion I got lucky and it missed, although the birds shot off in all directions they did eventually all make it home. 


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07/07/2020 8:03 pm  

Another interesting read and some good information shared, a insight on how you do things.And plans going forward,look forward to the updates when they come around.


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