It's stopping fancier's getting the credit they deserve with hard work & getting the best out of there pigeons.
Yes Matt if protocols aren't followed then this is a possibility.

Winfort Lofts wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2026 10:13 am With out meaning to cause any undue alarm...

I have reason to change my mind about the risks of Ai and ETS systems.

Hello Matt, can I ask your thoughts on why you have doubts please.

Thanks for your opinion King.

Winfort Lofts wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2026 10:13 am With out meaning to cause any undue alarm...

I have reason to change my mind about the risks of Ai and ETS systems.

Exactly Matt, that's why I started the topic off it's been going on with improbable velocity & altering the results sheets.

Hello goose, yes I've watched this when it was 1st put up by NPH, all done with feeding beans, they have got there system & been consistent for many years.

With King on this one, if the protocols are followed correctly, then there is not situations where it can be manipulated.

If a club was to not follow protocol, printing sheets at home etc, then you wouldn't even need Ai to alter the result print out!
Yes Matt, protocol should be followed 100 ...

A large % of young adults aren't interested they only want the next new mobile, or what's the newest game that they will spend all night playing on there console/ computer.If you said to them about pigeon racing they wouldn't have a clue or show any interest. The cost to set up is another thing ...

Yes Buster I understand in your loft that's the case, & you haven't brought anything in., but with respect to you I'd say there isn't a pigeon today that they've all been mixed up along the way.
Van Den Bulck has brought in pigeons from other sources, Joss Cools for example, Van Den Brandes bros so ...

You look back at the pigeons you have had from Dave & Jim I bet none of them are pure, it's a mixture brought together from different sources along the way trying different things to see if they work or not. When fancier's say there a pure strain that's not technically right.
I've got all sprinters ...

I don't think any strain is pure Buster they can't be, there a mixture of different pigeons brought together when breeding by the said owner/ fancier. Just because it a VDen Bulk or Mark Gilbert pigeon they are all from different sources, these top fancier's are all co breeding so again nothing is ...