Sorry Daz I don’t know about the Benzing system. I’m sure someone else on here might. Otherwise I’ll try to find out at the club on Friday as one of our members has it.

I agree with that Tony.

No harm on being hard with them when young. I don’t think it’s a weakness to have a heart for those that have given you everything and earned a perch for life.

Do you think that would apply more to hens than cocks Tony as it is them that determine the quality of the egg itself?

I have spoken to Dev this morning. He assured me it is nothing to do with anything anyone said. He says he just needs time out. He has had things hard lately with his own health, Maria’s health along with losing a good friend recently. His friends funeral is tomorrow.

Very good Murray. You’ll be able to get your loft back up in your new place soon.

And by the third generation, the pigeons has 16 great grand parents. 15 of them are not Kittel. So, you are paying lots and lots of money for what is just another pigeon. ;) And that’s partly what I’m saying. Unless that top pigeon is at least the grandparent, 25%, its value in the pedigree is pret...

Age doesn't matter at all. For both cock or hens. There have been countless great pigeons bred from old pigeons. As one post has already been said longevity is a good thing, especially if staying fertile. Many don't ever get the chance to breed from older birds as many modern families of today are ...

Very interesting Tony. As I don’t keep stock birds all my youngsters are bred from my racers. I would like to think that as my race team improves so should the youngsters from them. I will breed a few latebreds from the widowhood cocks that perform best during the season.

best pigeons are here in the uk and ireland jmo That's an interesting statement. Here in Australia there's two sorts of racing. In the big cities, especially Melbourne and Sydney, there are lots of flyers sending thousands and thousands if birds every week, massive drags heading for the city. For m...